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Re: MATCHING SENSOR SIZES!!

Rob van Gelder
 

Not sure if the Venice is totally compatible, but perhaps easier to get 9 of them than Monstro’s.... here are the options for shooting mode and frame lines:
But how a production can start on a camera where there are not enough from..... ???

Rob Erik van Gelder
Lighthouse film service
Bangkok Thailand


Re: MATCHING SENSOR SIZES!!

Thomas Gleeson
 

Would you be better served with Monstro cameras? Exactly the same sensor so exact matching of FOV and resolution not to mention the same exposure characteristics and R3D record format. While Panavision has tweaked the colour science and the OLPF the Monstro and DXL share most of their DNA . The Sony is an excellent camera but not sure its the ideal B Camera for the DXL??? 

Many Thanks
Tom Gleeson
0412 677 541
www.gleeson.net.au



On 29 May 2019, at 5:53 am, satramkent@... wrote:

Howsit going everyone?

I'm currently on a show, shooting on Panavision DXL2s 6,5k. Framing for/with a 5k extraction.
We have a 9 camera day coming up and 9 DXLs are unavailable. We trying to solve all framing, lens matching in camera. So cameras of similar sensor sizes is first prize and right now that seems to be the Sony Venice.

I know this is a broad question but do any of you have concerns, suggestions. Also can we even add a 5k extraction framing on the Sony Venice?

best,


MATCHING SENSOR SIZES!!

Kent Satram
 

Howsit going everyone?

I'm currently on a show, shooting on Panavision DXL2s 6,5k. Framing for/with a 5k extraction.
We have a 9 camera day coming up and 9 DXLs are unavailable. We trying to solve all framing, lens matching in camera. So cameras of similar sensor sizes is first prize and right now that seems to be the Sony Venice.

I know this is a broad question but do any of you have concerns, suggestions. Also can we even add a 5k extraction framing on the Sony Venice?

best,


Re: Markup Focus wheels

Jeff Kreines
 

This is a piece of cake using Solidworks to draw the part and generate an STL file to print it. Takes little time. 

Jeff Kreines

Sent from iPhone. 

On May 22, 2019, at 2:05 AM, steadirob@... wrote:

Tom, it is surprising how helpful certain software can be, even the free programs.
I would like to try one ring, to see what it can archive. I have to use that printer for useful things.....

What I need is the inner and outer diameter of the ring you want to copy, the thickness, where the locking pin goes and how far. 
Basically a picture of the ring, seen from the top (no perspective or distortion) and with the marking-stripes accurately placed. The numbers can be a bit wobbly, they will be replaced with a proper font. And the brand/focal lens of the lens.

Rob Erik van Gelder
Lighthouse Film Service
Bangkok, Thailand


Re: Markup Focus wheels

Rob van Gelder
 

Tom, it is surprising how helpful certain software can be, even the free programs.
I would like to try one ring, to see what it can archive. I have to use that printer for useful things.....

What I need is the inner and outer diameter of the ring you want to copy, the thickness, where the locking pin goes and how far. 
Basically a picture of the ring, seen from the top (no perspective or distortion) and with the marking-stripes accurately placed. The numbers can be a bit wobbly, they will be replaced with a proper font. And the brand/focal lens of the lens.

Rob Erik van Gelder
Lighthouse Film Service
Bangkok, Thailand


Re: Markup Focus wheels

Andy Jarosz
 

Wow! Shoot35 is still around! That takes me back. I just discovered the other day the Letus is still selling 35mm adapters. Amazing what we used to put up with...

Anyway, most marking disks are quite simple shapes that wouldn't need to be 3D scanned in order to create 3D printed copies, just measured. Flat focus rings (FF4 style) could be laser engraved fairly quickly as well.

That said, I think simply 2D printing onto good ol' label paper is a solid solution. Wrap it in j-lar and it should last a while.

Best,

-- 
Andy Jarosz
MadlyFX Special Effects & Props
Andy@...
708.420.2639
Chicago, IL


On 5/21/2019 6:15 PM, Thomas Gleeson via Cml.News wrote:
Steven,

I couldn’t resist the amazing price of the CINEfocus Pro Follow Focus As an owner operator my FF is only a backup or for small jobs and on bigger projects AC bring their own systems. So far it's proven to be a more than capable tool. 

I like the 3D printing idea although I suspect its a complex process as you would first need to scan the original disc then create a CAD file then accurately translate the focus marks onto the CAD drawing. No easy task. 

Tom Glesson
Sydney DOP


Markup Focus wheels

Thomas Gleeson
 

Steven,

I couldn’t resist the amazing price of the CINEfocus Pro Follow Focus As an owner operator my FF is only a backup or for small jobs and on bigger projects AC bring their own systems. So far it's proven to be a more than capable tool. 

I like the 3D printing idea although I suspect its a complex process as you would first need to scan the original disc then create a CAD file then accurately translate the focus marks onto the CAD drawing. No easy task. 

Tom Glesson
Sydney DOP


Re: Markup Focus wheels

Steven Bailey
 

Hi Tom,

Before I start coming up with ideas, what Follow Focus system do you have? Arri FF4? WCU4? 



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On 21 May 2019, at 11:52 am, Thomas Gleeson via Cml.News <lensboy235=me.com@...> wrote:

I am looking for suggestions for the neatest way to markup my Follow Focus. I generally use my own personal set of primes and have bought a disc for each lens. Whatever the approach ideally it would be semi permanent or reversible as I do use other glass. I have terrible calligraphy skills and I was wondering if anyone was printing up the focus scale or some other clever approach? 

Tom Gleeson
Sydney DOP


Re: Markup Focus wheels

Rob van Gelder
 

It is possible to 3D-print FF-rings with the scales as indent and then filled with a contrasted color.... But this will have to be custom-made for every lens.
I've 3D-printed (plain) extra rings for the WRC-4 and Heden handsets....  It's not a quick job for sure. 

Rob Erik van Gelder
Head of maintenance, International contacts
Lighthouse Film Service
Bangkok, Thailand


Markup Focus wheels

Thomas Gleeson
 

I am looking for suggestions for the neatest way to markup my Follow Focus. I generally use my own personal set of primes and have bought a disc for each lens. Whatever the approach ideally it would be semi permanent or reversible as I do use other glass. I have terrible calligraphy skills and I was wondering if anyone was printing up the focus scale or some other clever approach? 

Tom Gleeson
Sydney DOP


Re: Cine RT interfering with sound mics

Ben Tubb
 

Hey Bart,

The setting I’m referring to:

In the vitals menu, there’s a button that looks like a sound mixer. Literally, it’s a little face with headphones on. Click it, and it turns into a smiley face. That’s “make the soundies happy mode”.

I’ve never needed to try it!

Thanks,
Benjamin Tubb
IATSE 669 1st AC - Vancouver, BC
604-908-5219
benjamin.tubb@...


Re: Cine RT interfering with sound mics

bart van otterdijk
 

I did have issues on one or two occasions.. Only when using radio mics. Apparently the build of these mics is perceptual to vibrations when the ultrasonic ‘sound’ of the cineRT or cinetape hits it at close range full on causing the internals of the mic to produce a clicking sound.
It’s less than with a cinetape but it still occurs.

Lowering the sensitivity to 25 or 30 instead of the standard 50 solved the problem. I’m curious about what setting Laird suggested..

It all depends on what mics the sound guys are using and how difficult they want to be I guess but in any case, should it occur it’s easily fixed and you don’t need to unplug the cineRT to stay friends with the sound dept.

gr,

Bart Van Otterdijk
1AC, Operator, DOP,
Belgium




On 12 May 2019, at 03:03, Lauport@... wrote:

Nope. Not a peep or raised eyebrow from Sound in 2 years. Lots of wireless units being used on actors. Not to mention we 1st ACs had com-techs to hear all the very quiet dialogue. So we’d also know if there was something amiss. 

The Sound team on our last Series were pretty ruthless when it came to noise or interference on set. Don’t even think of leaving your phone on vibrate across the stage! They hear everything, and they know where you live. 

Cheers,

Larry Portmann
1st AC
Vancouver,BC 


Re: Cine RT interfering with sound mics

Lauport@...
 

Nope. Not a peep or raised eyebrow from Sound in 2 years. Lots of wireless units being used on actors. Not to mention we 1st ACs had com-techs to hear all the very quiet dialogue. So we’d also know if there was something amiss. 

The Sound team on our last Series were pretty ruthless when it came to noise or interference on set. Don’t even think of leaving your phone on vibrate across the stage! They hear everything, and they know where you live. 

Cheers,

Larry Portmann
1st AC
Vancouver,BC 


Re: Cine RT interfering with sound mics

Ben Tubb
 

Hey Saul,

I’ve had my CineRT since the demoing/prototyping stages, and I’ve been using it on every show I’ve done, and every daycall as well, since. Love it!

Laird (the guy who builds them) made a point to show me the setting in there that “makes the sound guys happy” if they ever hear it. But I’ve never once needed it. Not once. But the option is there!

That’s working with heaps of different sound people. None have ever mentioned anything. And I’ve never heard it on the comtek either.

Thanks,
Benjamin Tubb
IATSE 669 1st AC - Vancouver, BC
604-908-5219
benjamin.tubb@...


Cine RT interfering with sound mics

Saul Oliveira
 

Hello, I have heard of, at least one, sound department that had interference in their microphones with de new Cine RT system.

what is your experience on this matter?

best regards 
Saul Oliveira 
first AC 
Spain


Re: ROLLING THE DXL2 WITH WCU4 AND UMC4

Colemar Nichols
 

i’ve used the DXL and the DXL2 and never had this particular problem, have you contacted the closest Panavision office to you? In the camera menus there is a support hotline phone number for PV. Is there a DXL Preston Module on the assistant’s side? If so, try removing it. It may be interfering with the UMC snd false triggering.

Colemar Nichols
DoP
ABQ, NM

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Re: ROLLING THE DXL2 WITH WCU4 AND UMC4

Jeremy Stewart
 

Try setting it to shutter speed not angle. Can help on a Gemini.

Jeremy Stewart 
Steadicam
Norway 


ROLLING THE DXL2 WITH WCU4 AND UMC4

Kent Satram
 

Hi,

Hope you all good,
I'm having trouble rolling the dxl2 with my ARRI WCU4, and Ive got the UMC4 on.
Ive got the camera to 3pin rs cable plugged into the front of the dxl. The GPIO on the camera is set up correctly to RECORD START/STOP.

Every time I plug in the 3pin rs cable, it rolls the camera.

Any help?

Kent


Re: Passive camera cooling - Swamp cooler

Marque DeWinter
 

I would just be cautious with the humidity factor with something like a swamp cooler. Depending on how you rig it with the camera you could potentially be introducing a lot of humidity into the camera body which cause damage. Also if ice packs aren’t cutting it, I don’t think a swamp cooler would be enough (although if stuck with dry ice humidity isn’t as much an issue). Have you considered a closed loop liquid heat sink system? You could probably find one that’s 12v or 24v that could hook up to a AB or Vlock plate.

Marque DeWinter
ATL/NYC


Re: Passive camera cooling - Swamp cooler

Nathan Armstrong
 

My first recommendation is to shoot ARRI. Not helpful I know but cooling is one thing ARRI paid attention to and it really paid off in making the whole line of Alexa cameras more reliable and the noise level consistent. Not only do they cool the sensor, but they heat it up when it's too cold.

Dry Ice is a known plan, it's been done before and it works. Cooling from "the top" or focusing on air intake should work. Just keep in mind that direct contact with cold temps might make the plastic parts become brittle, you'd only need a thin barrier to protect the camera though.  Also mind the gas in enclosed spaces, don't want push all the oxygen out of the set. I would not trust the cameras internal fans either when it comes to having sufficient velocity. If you are going to add ducting put you own 12v fan on there to direct the air where it needs to go, and with some research you can find some pretty quiet fans on the market. 

One interesting idea would be to use a 12V thermoelectric (peltier) cooler placed strategically on the camera body or with ducting. This is an enclosed electric system (no water mess!) This is basically the same tech that ARRI uses to cool their sensors, and I suppose you could mod this on the outside on a camera too. If you do please post online, I'd love to see such a beast. In Minneapolis we don't worry much about overheating, rather we have much experience with subzero temps. 


Nathan Armstrong
DIT
Minneapolis, USA
1.801.362.1741