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Aaton XTR PROD with newer lithium 14v+ batteries?

Justin Lovell
 

I've been warned that using a lithium ion battery such as these.  I may have a chance of frying the colour video tap being 14.4v.:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1348018-REG/varizoom_vzs8073n_73wh_14_4v_li_ion_battery.html?sts=pi
14.4v
However block batteries, which have been used with the XTR PROD can spike at 16v so I am not sure if I should be concerned.

I'm OK with using these as I already have a charger and 2 of them:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/208321-REG/Bescor_BPNP1_BP_NP1_NP_1_Style_NiCd.html?sts=pi
12v
But looking to see if I should be getting something with a higher capacity, or just stick with the trusted older NP1s

Just don't want to fry any parts in the camera as getting repairs and parts is going to be more difficult to come by.

Thanks for the advice!

Next time sign your message name job and location it helps people to know how to respond and it's CML rules

caleb crosby
 

Justin,

my experience with several Aatons is that they have good flex with DC voltage as do most DC
instruments. As a 12v lead acid battery voltage falls from 12.6 to around 12.1 (dead) there is no performance effect
on a Mac laptop. I forget the Aaton nominal charge 14.4? But I’m sure whatever the target rating is it has the flex to operate in a range above and below. A battery will typically not be much above its nominal rating except hot off the charger. My guess is DC is DC is DC - so if the battery falls within the rated voltage your good. Also the ground glass, pellicle - it’s all easy to user access and clean, I feel pretty sure its fused and protected. But thats just coming from an
Aaton shooter you may want to hear from a real Aaton expert. some dude way down south in Coosooda AL….?

Nice thing about shooting with Aaton is worry level = near zero!

Caleb ‘actual zero’ Crosby
Camera stuff
New Orleans

Justin Lovell
 

Thanks Caleb!

Anyone have a lead with an Aaton service tech who may have a difinitive answer on this that I could reach out to? 

Last thing I was to do is fry a component 😬

Thanks! 

Justin Lovell 
Associate Member Canadian Society of Cinematographers 
www.justinlovell.com 

 

Contact Alan Giles (great guy!) in the UK on
+ 44 (0) 1460 73038 or +44 (0) 7831 777 203
He’s the Aaton man!!!

Stephen Perera
Gibraltar
+34 667661936

On 27 Apr 2018, at 16:09, Justin Lovell <just.love.film@...> wrote:

Thanks Caleb!

Anyone have a lead with an Aaton service tech who may have a difinitive answer on this that I could reach out to? 

Last thing I was to do is fry a component 😬

Thanks! 

Justin Lovell 
Associate Member Canadian Society of Cinematographers 
www.justinlovell.com 

caleb crosby
 

Justin

If you don’t hear from Alan over wk end and are itching to shoot the factory
manual for the XTR specifies a 10-14 voltage range @ 600mA current. The tap will fall within that spec if it is factory installed. That’s a lot of flex and 12v falls smack in the middle. So shoot the 12’s you have and Alan will set you straight on an optimal battery.

Caleb Crosby
Camera
New Orleans

sameer shrivastava
 

This is definitely not for you. it has peak voltage of 16.8V




Each lithium cell peaks at 4.2Vat full charge.Nominal is at 3.7V. each pack has 4 set of cells connected in series. 
at 3.7V only about 7% of juice left.

You should stick to 12V packs. sealed lead acid are quite safe or a 3 cell Li-ion pack with a matching charger



Sameer Shrivastava
D.O.P/Aerial Cinematographer/ Colourist/Smoke Artist
Dir. @ Birdeye Movies
http://www.birdeyemovies.com/index.html
Phone +91 9820431618


On Thursday, April 26, 2018, 8:08:51 AM GMT+5:30, Justin Lovell <just.love.film@...> wrote:


I've been warned that using a lithium ion battery such as these.  I may have a chance of frying the colour video tap being 14.4v.:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1348018-REG/varizoom_vzs8073n_73wh_14_4v_li_ion_battery.html?sts=pi
14.4v
However block batteries, which have been used with the XTR PROD can spike at 16v so I am not sure if I should be concerned.

I'm OK with using these as I already have a charger and 2 of them:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/208321-REG/Bescor_BPNP1_BP_NP1_NP_1_Style_NiCd.html?sts=pi
12v
But looking to see if I should be getting something with a higher capacity, or just stick with the trusted older NP1s

Just don't want to fry any parts in the camera as getting repairs and parts is going to be more difficult to come by.

Thanks for the advice!

Next time sign your message name job and location it helps people to know how to respond and it's CML rules

Robert Houllahan
 

I've been warned that using a lithium ion battery such as these.  I may have a chance of frying the colour video tap being 14.4v.:


HI

I have been using a Ryobi 18V power tool battery with a DC to DC voltage regulator on my XTRprod and I set the voltage to 12.8v works fine.


Robert Houllahan
Film Maker
Providence R.I.

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Argyris_Theos_cml
 

If memory serves me, the XTR used both 12V or 13.2V batteries.
14.4V packs did not exist at the time.
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27 Απρ 2018, 8:36 μ.μ., ο/η "caleb crosby" <cc@...> έγραψε:

XTR specifies a 10-14 voltage range @ 600mA curre