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Blackmagic's new 4K RAW pocket camera

Daniel Drasin
 

Fahnon
 

I emailed my rep to preorder before the conference was over because it ticks so many boxes for me and is only $1,300. 

I think it’s actually less like the original pocket and more like the original Cinema Camera in a lot of ways (the rubber enclosed ports, the touchscreen, the full size audio ports).  

The thing I’m most curious about is the dual ISO performance. It’s 400/3200, which is quite a spread @ 3 stops (I would have thought the lower native would be 800).  Might have to use the Varicam technique of shooting 3200 native and pulling to get to 1600...


On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:45 PM Daniel Drasin <danieldrasin@...> wrote:
https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/09/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-4k-launch/

Dan Drasin
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cleverson cassanelli
 

I see nothing than a 5D , LP 6, battery in this camera. GH5 still beeing a better choice to DSLR aproach. Two ISO? They barelly can deal with one.

Cleverson Cassanelli
DP


Em seg, 9 de abr de 2018 20:55, Fahnon <fahnon@...> escreveu:

I emailed my rep to preorder before the conference was over because it ticks so many boxes for me and is only $1,300. 

I think it’s actually less like the original pocket and more like the original Cinema Camera in a lot of ways (the rubber enclosed ports, the touchscreen, the full size audio ports).  

The thing I’m most curious about is the dual ISO performance. It’s 400/3200, which is quite a spread @ 3 stops (I would have thought the lower native would be 800).  Might have to use the Varicam technique of shooting 3200 native and pulling to get to 1600...


On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:45 PM Daniel Drasin <danieldrasin@...> wrote:
https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/09/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-4k-launch/

Dan Drasin
Producer/DP
Marin County, CA

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Fahnon Bennett
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Brooklyn, New York
323.375.4332

Frazer Bradshaw
 

What I loved about the original was that I built mine out such that it balanced perfectly on the shoulder with an Angenieux 11.5-138 S16 zoom, and I could run it and and EVF literally all day on one single brick (which balanced the zoom).  The pictures were never as pretty as I wished, but ergonomically, it was as good or even better for HH than my Aaton.  With the bigger sensor in the new one, no more 12:1 Angenieux, so not a camera that will be useful to me.  Too bad!


       Frazer Bradshaw
   Director of Photography
Oakland, CA   415.517.3260

Jeff Kreines
 

How about a picture??

Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
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kinetta.com

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On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Frazer Bradshaw <dp@...> wrote:

What I loved about the original was that I built mine out such that it balanced perfectly on the shoulder

Argyris_Theos_cml
 

How about a picture??

How about this:
image.jpeg

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Marty Mullin
 

Jesus, somebody stole my camera!


Marty Mullin
DP
Los Angeles
818 712-0272


How about a picture??


Mako Koiwai
 

Check out the new FujiFilm X-H1. APS sized sensor, built-in Stabilization, Excellent AF (with Eye Detection), good low light capability, F-log and Fuji Eterna film Simulation. We all know how great Fujinons are!

Is the BM Mini HDMI OUT Improved? We LOVED the camera but that port was way too fragile! It was just mounted on a board, ie. Not attached to the chassis. Just plugging in would dislodge the connector. Since we were using it locked off in difficult positions, not having Video Out meant trying to use a compact mirror. :-(

Makofoto, S. Pasadena, Ca

Bob Kertesz
 

Is the BM Mini HDMI OUT Improved? We LOVED the camera but that port
was way too fragile! It was just mounted on a board, ie. Not attached
to the chassis. Just plugging in would dislodge the connector.
That's how Blackmagic used to build EVERYTHING because it was the
cheapest way to do it. It was why I would buy two of whatever I needed
to make sure I had one that worked on the day. Perhaps that was the plan
all along.

I have no idea if they still do that. They did not do it on the
Ultimatte 12, but then that's a $10K box with about 20 BNC's on the
back, and the product was originally from another company that they
bought. They did strangely omit an LED for power, so there's no way to
tell visually if the box is on.

It would be nice if they came to their senses and mounted all connectors
to metal, and made the power plugs locking connectors. You can't own the
world with intermittent product, Grant.

-Bob

Bob Kertesz
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Hollywood, California

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Argyris_Theos_cml
 

“BM Mini HDMI OUT Improved”

 

Just improved Mako? The HDMI out was a discontinued chip before the Pocket camera was released.

You could find it in bulk, it costed (if memory serves me) less than 3$ per chip but you had to but a minimum of 10,000 pieces.

There is always an answer to the question: how can it be that cheap?

Best Regards

Argyris Theos, gsc

DoP

Athens Greece

 

 

 

Argyris_Theos_cml
 

Nop! The lens is a Cooke

Argyris Theos, gsc

DoP

Athens Greece

 

From: cml-general@... [mailto:cml-general@...] On Behalf Of Marty Mullin via Cml.News
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [cml-general] Blackmagic's new 4K RAW pocket camera

 

Jesus, somebody stole my camera!

 

 

Marty Mullin

DP

Los Angeles

818 712-0272

 

 

Jeff Kreines
 

On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Mako Koiwai <mako1foto@...> wrote:

Is the BM Mini HDMI OUT Improved?
It’s now a full sized HDMI connector but I don’t know how it’s attached.

It does have a mini-XLR mic input with phantom power — rather than a 1/8” jack.


Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
jeff@...
kinetta.com

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Will Montgomery
 

Is the BM Mini HDMI OUT Improved? We LOVED the camera but that port
was way too fragile! It was just mounted on a board, ie. Not attached
to the chassis. Just plugging in would dislodge the connector.
Wooden Camera makes a good HDMI adapter that bolts onto the cage/frame they make for that so you don’t have to plug/unplug that connector repeatedly. Gives a full size HDML connector that is much easier to work with and extends that jack’s lifespan.

Will Montgomery
Rubicon Marketing
Dallas, TX

Frazer Bradshaw
 


How about a picture??

Here you go Jeff.  I custom machined much of the bracketry and all the wood, including a little cover that pinches the HDMI cable into place :-)  There is a little dovetail (designed for telescopes) that slides the camera body forward or back to balance different weights of primes or zoom.  And the the camera body and lens can slide out of the dovetail, away from the brick/rods/shoulder rig, when desirable.

Cheers,
Frazer

Frazer Bradshaw
 


How about a picture??

Here you go Jeff.  I custom machined much of the bracketry and all the wood, including a little cover that pinches the HDMI cable into place :-)  There is a little dovetail (designed for telescopes) that slides the camera body forward or back to balance different weights of primes or zoom.  And the the camera body and lens can slide out of the dovetail, away from the brick/rods/shoulder rig, when desirable.

Cheers,
Frazer

Frazer Bradshaw
 

Double sorry! First about the double email deliver, and second about the cardinal sin of the missing signature!!!

Frazer Bradshaw
Director of Photography
Oakland, CA
www.frazerbradshaw.com

Roderick E Stevens II
 

Hi Frazer.

What EVF is that?


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Roderick Stevens
Filmmaker
Arizona

Gareth Roberts
 

That's the Cineroid 4RVW.

Gareth
Camera
Canada

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Roderick E Stevens II <roderick@...> wrote:
Hi Frazer.

What EVF is that?





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Art Adams
 

Whenever I see a rig like that I think, "That's the wrong tool for that particular job."

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Frazer Bradshaw
 


Art:  Whenever I see a rig like that I think, "That's the wrong tool for that particular job.”

I’d argue that once a camera becomes small enough, it’s usability becomes a blank slate.  The BMPCC is so small that it can simply become what the user needs it to be.  In fact, one must add plates, rod support, handles, battery adaptors, etc to a RED to make it functional (as RED would argue is by-design), so does that then make a RED the wrong tool because of the additional hardware?

In the case of my rig, I’ve never had a camera on my shoulder that is more comfortable, well balanced, and accommodates the lens that I personally find ideal for doc style shooting, and the combination of those things make it the very best solution to hand held shooting, for me.  In this case, the camera itself is not THE tool.  THE tool is the sum of the parts, most of which I designed and built for my own ideal scenario.  
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Yes, this is the Cineroid  with retina screen.  It’s a piece of crap.  I added an optic behind the diopter to shrink the image, so one can see it as an image and not just a grid of overly enlarged pixels, and that makes is serviceable, but it’s still crappy.

Cheers,
Frazer


       Frazer Bradshaw
   Director of Photography
Oakland, CA   415.517.3260