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Nikon Lens to LPL Adapter?

Paul Nungeßer
 

Hi everyone,

A while back when the Alexa LF was announced, Steven Morton posted that the flange distance of the LPL-Mount should allow for an adapter to old Nikon stills glass. Has anyone embarked on that challenge yet? Google doesn’t seem to turn up anything, but perhaps I am looking in the wrong places. I have a full set of AI and AI-S lenses and would love to try those out on the LF, if there is anyone that makes an adapter. 

Paul Nungeßer
Student Cinematographer - based in Berlin

Mitch Gross
 

the LPL-Mount should allow for an adapter to old Nikon stills glass. Has anyone embarked on that challenge yet? 



Guess I’m a little better at Google than you. 




Mitch Gross
Cinema Product Manager 
Panasonic System Solutions Company of North America
New York


Gareth Roberts
 

There doesn't seem to be an adapter for for Nikon to LPL on that site.

Gareth Roberts

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:48 AM Mitch Gross <mitchgrosscml@...> wrote:
the LPL-Mount should allow for an adapter to old Nikon stills glass. Has anyone embarked on that challenge yet? 



Guess I’m a little better at Google than you. 




Mitch Gross
Cinema Product Manager 
Panasonic System Solutions Company of North America
New York




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Robert L. Cunningham
 

I’m seconding the question. 

Mitch- I must be missing something, but on the link you shared there still is not what was asked for. 

The question is- is there an adapter that can allow for the mounting of Nikon F Mount lenses on a camera with an LPL lens mount. There was no such adapter on the link you sent. 

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 05:48, Mitch Gross <mitchgrosscml@...> wrote:

the LPL-Mount should allow for an adapter to old Nikon stills glass. Has anyone embarked on that challenge yet? 



Guess I’m a little better at Google than you. 




Mitch Gross
Cinema Product Manager 
Panasonic System Solutions Company of North America
New York


David Hollander
 

I have been using this mount for my Amira and it works like a charm:

Jacek could make an LPL Mount I am sure.

David Hollander
DP/Producer 
San Antonio, Texas 


Mitch Gross
 

Sorry, I only saw that you asked Nikon. They have Nikon 1 and Nikon Z listed.

Mitch Gross
Cinema Product Manager
Panasonic System Solutions Company of North America
New York

On Oct 9, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Robert L. Cunningham <rlcunn2@...> wrote:

is there an adapter that can allow for the mounting of Nikon F Mount lenses on a camera with an LPL lens mount.

Paul Nungeßer
 

Thanks for the responses, everyone. I wrote to Krzysztof from C7 Adapters, that Mitch linked, asking him if they could manufacture such an adapter. He wrote

2.5mm difference is really small. Actually we could make this adapter but it would not work with Nikkor Ai and Ai-S lenses without some modification.

So seems like an adapter isn’t feasible after all. He suggested a Nikon mount for Alexa instead, that would work on the LF as well, similar to the one David linked for Amira. However, I was hoping to adapt those without having to change the mount of the camera.

Paul Nungeßer
Student Cinematographer - based in Berlin

Mako Koiwai
 

Amazing … Sigma reports there are now over 2,000 different Lens/Camera adapters … mainly because narrow Mirrorless cameras easily allow adapting.

But the one that will never really work is using Canon lenses on Nikons. Nikon to Canon is OK, but … here, from Photography Stack Exchange:

You won't readily find a Canon EOS → Nikon F or Canon FD/FL → Nikon F adapter. There are reasons for this.
• A lens's ability to focus through the entire distance range to infinity relies heavily upon the distance it's held from the image plane. This is known as the register distance or flange focal distance, and it's specific to each mount system. The Nikon F distance is 46.5mm. The Canon EOS distance is 44mm; the Canon FD/FL distance is 42mm. So, it's easy to build a mechanical ring that makes up the 2.5mm between Canon EOS and Nikon so you can mount a Nikon F lens on a Canon EOS dSLR body and use it (albeit without electronic communication; more on this below).

But in the reverse direction, you'd have to shave off 2.5mm from either the lens mount or the camera mount, and you're liable to have the lens's rear element collide with the mirror if you manage to do so. If you do find an adapter ring it must act like a macro extension tube by holding the lens farther away than its registration distance. So an optical element is required to act as a short teleconverter to regain focus to infinity. If the glass is cheap, it's liable to degrade image quality. Without glass, the lens will only be able to focus relatively closely, so for macro or close portrait use, it might be ok, but it's relatively rare to find one of these rings.

• The electronic mount communication between the camera and the lens is proprietary and adapter rings don't translate between the two, so you give up all the features that require camera/lens communication (e.g., camera body control of the lens aperture [i.e., you can only shoot in M or A], wide-open metering, lens EXIF information, autofocus).

• The Nikon D3x00/D40 and D5x00/D60 models cannot perform stop-down metering. So even if you're willing to give up focus to infinity and try and use an adapter ring, you'll lose accurate metering.

• Canon EOS lenses have no aperture rings. Without electronic communication and with no manual way to adjust the aperture, you either have to shoot wide open all the time, or you have to mount the EOS lens on a Canon body, set the aperture, hold down the DOF button and unmount it and then put it on your Nikon body. And go through this little ritual every time you want to change the aperture. FD/FL lenses, however, do have aperture rings.
The only practical way I've seen to adapt other (mostly manual-focus) mount SLR lenses to Nikon F for those of us without machine shops and experience tinkering with lenses and camera bodies, are the Leitax lens mount replacement kits, and the only mounts they provide Nikon kits for are Leica R, Contax/Yashica (think: Zeiss), and Olympus OM lenses. <<<. Dec. 2017



makofoto, who has a number of EF/F/FX adapters … s. pasadena, ca

Ben Castricone
 

david   

thanks  we do   not  sell   ari  cameras . thanks  anyway

best  regards

ben

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:54 AM David Hollander <fourthdensity@...> wrote:
I have been using this mount for my Amira and it works like a charm:

Jacek could make an LPL Mount I am sure.

David Hollander
DP/Producer 
San Antonio, Texas 




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On 12Oct, 2018, at 10:27 56, Mako Koiwai <mako1foto@...> wrote:

The only practical way I've seen to adapt other (mostly manual-focus) mount SLR lenses to Nikon F for those of us without machine shops and experience tinkering with lenses and camera bodies, are the Leitax lens mount replacement kits,


I’ve had good experience with the Leitax mount replacements going from Leica to Canon - dimensionally correct and solid, unlike many of the adaptors that add a bit of slop to the mix
Weingartner
LA- based DP

David Hollander
 

I was referring to the Nikon mounts you were selling.
Can you make one for the LF?

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:02 PM Ben Castricone <BCAST@...> wrote:
david   

thanks  we do   not  sell   ari  cameras . thanks  anyway

best  regards

ben

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:54 AM David Hollander <fourthdensity@...> wrote:
I have been using this mount for my Amira and it works like a charm:

Jacek could make an LPL Mount I am sure.

David Hollander
DP/Producer 
San Antonio, Texas 




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jacek2@...
 

We've been offering Nikon to Alexa Classic, Plus, Xt, LF cameras for a while now.
You do need to remove the LPL mount from the LF - we did the replacement at ARRI in under 10 min including checking the back focus.
http://optitek.org/products/new-nikon-f-prolock-lens-mount-adapter-for-alexa-classic-ev-xt-lf/

Ted Hayash
 

Changing the mount on the camera would mean that you'd mount your lenses as you would normally to any other Nikon mount camera. If I had a whole set of Nikon lenses and an Arri camera, I'd go for the Nikon mount on the camera. Changing the mounts on cameras these days is pretty routine. 

Mako Koiwai
 

Done properly those still lenses need to be rebarreled for responsible follow focusing expectations. Dp Jerry Hartleben loved the 60 Macro, on 30 Something. He had a large focus barrel made for it so that his outstanding Focus Puller Sam Dimagio had a fighting chance.

Perhaps with remote focusing the focus scale can be expanded on the hand set.

So at least add large gears to the lenses ...

Makofoto, No Half Measures, s. pas, ca

daveblackham@...
 

Rebarreled sets do exist, the lenses Ive seen are mostly in primes from Eastern Enterprises and made to very hight standard. Then theres the Morphius and Aurora zoom lenses from TLS which are also excelent. Id agree a simple adaptor I dont think is possible for Nikon F and better done via a camera mount for Nikon lenses.

Dave Blackham
Esprit Film and Television
UK