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"Large format" is a misnomer/what's the big deal?


Axel Gimenez
 

Before I dive in....

1) I understand cameras are tools, it's not the camera's fault :)
2) I want to test but I don't have access to an Alexa LF
3) Over the short time I've been working, my clients don't actually care what camera I use (seriously don't) but my contemporaries can't stop talking about this stuff. 

What's the big deal and why is everyone talking about large-format? The sensor is only the size of 35mm film, right? That's not much bigger than super-35 sensors. Shouldn't the Alexa 65 be called "Large format"? And what about 120 "medium format" film? Isn't that like four times as large as the Alexa 65?

Here's where the testing comes in - couldn't you lens an Alexa Mini to look like an LF by using a different focal length?

I don't get it. But that's only from reading and seeing what people are doing with "Large Format" cameras. (would like to try/test one day to give my rant some more weight). I feel like a crazy person.

Thanks. Axel


xax@...
 

https://nofilmschool.com/2019/12/can-you-put-difference-full-frame-words

This article explains it with some side-by-side comparisons.

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/566917601fe1e3d958ae91e0/5a7d39de8f34de0001ef4bf7_DOF-3-images-6_1.jpg - this shows the difference quite well too.

Xiaosu Han
cinematographer, Vienna, Austria
www.stilfabrik.at


Geoff Boyle
 

C’mon, not this again.

 

https://cinematography.net/Adam-Image-Compression.html

 

https://cinematography.net/Lessons/Lesson1.html

 

 

 

cheers
Geoff Boyle NSC FBKS
EU based cinematographer
+31 637155076

www.gboyle.nl

www.cinematography.net

 

 

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https://nofilmschool.com/2019/12/can-you-put-difference-full-frame-words

This article explains it with some side-by-side comparisons.

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/566917601fe1e3d958ae91e0/5a7d39de8f34de0001ef4bf7_DOF-3-images-6_1.jpg - this shows the difference quite well too.

Xiaosu Han
cinematographer, Vienna, Austria
www.stilfabrik.at


Axel Gimenez
 
Edited

Thank you all. My this topic RIP.

Axel Gimenez
Commercial FIlmmaker
NYC
axelgimenez.net


Agustin Barrutia
 

Steve Yedlin did a test some years ago comparing different resolutions, formats and cameras. 

He compared, s35, FF and 65 formats. I encourage you to take a look at it:
https://www.yedlin.net/ResDemo/index.html

If you go to his homepage you will see other tests he did comparing Film with digital cameras on Color Science.

Cheers,

Agustín Barrutia (ADF)
Cinematographer
(+54911) 4069-5463
Bs. As. Argentina.
 
 


Rob van Gelder
 

Wow, eye-opening. The >1 hour presentation (part 2) is really worth your time!


Rob Erik van Gelder
Lighthouse Film Service
Bangkok-Thailand
Head of maintenance / 
international contacts
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On Dec 18, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Agustin Barrutia <abarrutia@...> wrote:

Steve Yedlin did a test some years ago comparing different resolutions, formats and cameras. 

He compared, s35, FF and 65 formats. I encourage you to take a look at it:
https://www.yedlin.net/ResDemo/index.html

If you go to his homepage you will see other tests he did comparing Film with digital cameras on Color Science.

Cheers,

Agustín Barrutia (ADF)
Cinematographer
(+54911) 4069-5463
Bs. As. Argentina.
 
 


Fahnon
 

The Yedlin tests/demos are amazing, and I found them particularly eye opening. I don't code or use Scratch (haven't had the "scratch" to buy a license), but I've been looking for a way to automate some of the things he does to make the Alexa look almost indistinguishable from film like gate weave and halation, but haven't found anything close.  Filmconvert works for what it is, but nowhere near the custom scripts Yedlin created.  If anyone has something that works in Resolve please do share...


On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 11:19 PM Rob van Gelder <steadirob@...> wrote:
Wow, eye-opening. The >1 hour presentation (part 2) is really worth your time!


Rob Erik van Gelder
Lighthouse Film Service
Bangkok-Thailand
Head of maintenance / 
international contacts
rob@...
+66 82572 4441 (cell)
+66 2946 1616 (office)


On Dec 18, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Agustin Barrutia <abarrutia@...> wrote:

Steve Yedlin did a test some years ago comparing different resolutions, formats and cameras. 

He compared, s35, FF and 65 formats. I encourage you to take a look at it:
https://www.yedlin.net/ResDemo/index.html

If you go to his homepage you will see other tests he did comparing Film with digital cameras on Color Science.

Cheers,

Agustín Barrutia (ADF)
Cinematographer
(+54911) 4069-5463
Bs. As. Argentina.
 
 



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