Hello, 

Next month I am going to shoot a video in Sony Alpha 7 iii and a Sony Alpha 6300. My last experience with Sony I use  PPP2 and I don't know if I miss something, the footage was pushing for red. I have seen some videos about how to set up Sony Picture Profile, but I didn't find a good solution. Anybody knows a good material about it? Or does anyone like or work with Sony Alpha can explain for me how her/his PPP setup. 

Thanks a lot

Hi Fernando,

Hi, Mr Boyle. Thanks a lot. I will test.

Take care,

Cheers

Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography
https://vimeo.com/fernandoalves

Hi Simon. Going to read this article!

Does anybody else here like to shoot in Sony Alpha?

Cheers,

Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography
https://vimeo.com/fernandoalves

Hello, M. Cole Chilton. I will test your setup and also S-Log2. I don't have "Type A"LUT. I will write you an e-mail.

I think I am going to rent three LYKOS Bi-Color LED. Do you know if I can get nice skin color with it? Or do you have any advice for me in what kind of light should I use?

LYKOS Bi-Color LED - https://www.manfrotto.com/global/led-light-lykos-bicolour-surface-mounted-with-dimmer-mll1300-bi/

Thanks a lot, M. Cole Chilton.

Take care,

Cheers,

Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography
https://vimeo.com/fernandoalves

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Hello Sara,

Thank you very much. I saw he sells Pro Color 3.0 to use in camera and Pro Log Premium Bundle to use in post. Have you ever use this Pro Log Premium? And if you taste both methods, which one do you prefer? Pro Color 3.0 in camera or Pro Log in post? 

Take care.

Cheers,

Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography
https://vimeo.com/fernandoalves

I tried that Color Profile 3.0 on my A6300, and a few of the other profiles those guys made. I really didn't like the results.

 

I started a list of notes for myself about some profiles, that have the profiles listed, in case anyone wants to read through my scribbling notes. There's links to various profiles.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sn3d-Z0cgWY-_4bAcA9pFqHHXjWrA0Bv_0ppGCwwbSU/edit?usp=sharing

Enjoy

John Sklba
Memphis, TN

Hello Fernando!. 

I've been using the Sony Alpha cameras for some time already and owned some of them. 
They can be a bit tricky with exposure and Luts, but once you get to know them and how to deal with it, they can give great results! I even used them as B cams with Fs7 and Arri Alexas and with a good Colorist you dont really see the difference (depending on subject matter of course).
My first advice is that, depending what you shoot and in which situation Slog might be a good or a bad choice. You need to overexpose it at least 1 stop to avoid noise, and if you dont have enough light you might be better shooting in another profile like Cine4. The aps-c cameras are much noisier than the FF ones so be careful with under exposure, specially with the A6300. Be careful not to overexpose too much or you'll compress your highlights and loose a lot of quality and it will be very difficult to grade.
Try to get external onboard monitors that can use LUTS and get your colorist do some exposure LUTS with -1 corrections so you can shoot seeing a "graded" image. As the camera doesnt support luts, if you dont have an external monitor with a correction LUT you will be shooting looking at an overexposed image. 
As Simon Lakos said you should configure the PP to your choice, so get into any PP and choose which Gamma/Gamut setup you will be using. 
Some people might use s-log3 for day exterior and high contrast situations, and switch to slog2 for interior and darker shots, but in the end in my experience the results are quite similar once you grade the footage. For this TEST! and try to find your best setup depending on your shoot. Id stick with gamma slog2/gammut3cine for start. Slog3 will compress highlights and crop at 95% or something, and if you use zebras at 100% you might think there is detail in the highlights but they will be blownout. 
A very good resource with lots of info on Sony cameras, Slog2, Slog3 etc is Alister Chapman Blog: http://www.xdcam-user.com/picture-settings-and-luts/
Take your time and go though it and read about PPs, Tips etc; and after reading about it TEST!!!!!
Another good resource where you can make your own luts is LUTCALC: https://cameramanben.github.io/LUTCalc/
Be careful to choose correctly the configuration on Lutcalc to avoid problems. If you dont understand the parameters look for help from an experienced Colorist.

 

Cheers,

Agustin Barrutia (ADF),
Cinematographer,
Buenos Aires, Argentina,
www.agustinbarrutia.com.ar

Thanks for sharing your notes! I appreciate you share it. Going to try these setups. Very helpful, John. 

Cool thread this one: https://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/20156-a6300-flat-profile-other-than-slog/

Take care.

Cheers,
Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography
https://vimeo.com/fernandoalves

Hola Agustin,

I am going to try shoot in SLog. Going to overexpose and be aware of avoid crashing the highlights. Do you have any advise in how to monitoring the exposure in the histogram? For sure I wil rent an external monitor and use Lut. Not going to create my own because don't have much experience in color grading. Going to try some Luts in this last link you send.

Gracias, Hermano!

Take care,
Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography
https://vimeo.com/fernandoalves

Hello everybody, thank you very much for all the sharing knowledge. I have been doing a good research about Sony Alpha picture profiles, exposure, white balance.

I found out that I can set up my light using false color on an external monitor. What you guys think about false color to measure the exposure? 

Another doubt that came up. Since I am going to use Slog2 or Slog3, how can I use a LUT in external monitor? What I mean is I am going to over expose my image by 2 stops in Slog2 or Slog3 and and apply a LUT in the external monitor to don't see the overexposed image that Slog generates. My doubt is if I am seeing a "grade" image in the monitor, does my histogram measures the Slog from the camera or from the "grade"image in the monitor with the LUT applied? Guess I am missing something. 

Take care

Cheers,
Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography
https://vimeo.com/fernandoalves

Fer, if your monitor has false color its a handy tool to find the right  skin exposure and avoid over and under exposure.
For the sony Alpha series I usually use a mix between Waveform and False Color. Use the waveform to check the exposure and be careful not to compress your image, as the camera is 8bit you will be loosing lots of shades when grading if you do.
Regarding Luts you need an external monitor that supports them. Try to over expose  between 1 to 1 1/2 stop, if you go for 2 full stops you might be crunching highlights and it will be hard to grade afterwards.
Depending on the external monitor you have it will only show the tools reading your LUT image or you might have the option to bypass the LUT and show you the tools reading the Slog signal. Thats an easy guess, as the Lut for sure will contrast the image and looking at the waveform you will be able to see if its readig the LUT or not. 
good luck!

Agustin Barrutia (ADF),
Cinematographer,
Buenos Aires, Argentina,
www.agustinbarrutia.com.ar

 

What you guys think about false color to measure the exposure? 

I use false color a lot for this purpose, and find it very valuable as it tells me exactly where in the picture I have hot spots, middle grays, etc.

Hola Agustin,

Going to rent a monitor that can read LUT. The rent house suggests Small HD SDI 702 7'. 

"Try to over expose  between 1 to 1 1/2 stop, if you go for 2 full stops you might be crunching highlights and it will be hard to grade afterwards."

Great! Going to be aware of this. As my monitor has False Color, going to use Waveform and False Color to exposure my image. 

Muchas Gracias, Agustin!

Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography

Hello Adam,

"I use false color a lot for this purpose, and find it very valuable as it tells me exactly where in the picture I have hot spots, middle grays, etc."

Nice one. 

Want to try Field Monitor app. Does it work in Iphone 6s? How can I taste it before buy it?

Thanks a lot.

Take care,
Fernando Alves
Editor and now studying Cinematography