Yes - exactly that. I posted previously (it was rushed and had a few problems) and people felt the green would influence colour perception too much so I keyed it out.

As for F: it is indeed in focus. But it is further away than the others (which obviously reveals something to those who want to think about it).

Colin Elves
DP, Berlin.

On 14 May 2019, at 18:34, Graham Futerfas <gfuterfas.cml@...> wrote:

Maybe I missed your earlier post… what’s the green fringing? Was it a green screen that you turned grey?

I like the color rendition on C, but I guess my favorite is G because its sharper and also seems to have good color overall. Maybe slightly under-saturated for my taste, but just by a small degree.

The color on E is pretty wild. Is F in focus? Not a fan of H.

Thanks for posting. Now I’m curious which ones I liked and which ones I didn’t.
-Graham

Maybe I missed your earlier post… what’s the green fringing? Was it a green screen that you turned grey?

I like the color rendition on C, but I guess my favorite is G because its sharper and also seems to have good color overall. Maybe slightly under-saturated for my taste, but just by a small degree.

The color on E is pretty wild. Is F in focus? Not a fan of H.

Thanks for posting. Now I’m curious which ones I liked and which ones I didn’t.
-Graham




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Well, this is interesting (if not more confusing) when you include the wide shot. D and E looked best to me in terms of flesh tones on the CU's only, but when viewing the bigger picture, E is just horrendous. Coke can is orange, plants olive... reminds me of the Sony F3. Sorry, no slight to the manufacturer intended. In fact, we still have one in our inventory, and it is flattering to people's faces; just not at all accurate in reproducing colors. It think it shoots OGB:-)

So for me, D is the clear winner in terms of both a very pleasing flesh tone (albeit slightly warm, which I generally prefer), while yielding a nice overall and accurate rendering of other colors and objects in the wider frame. Though perhaps a tad contrasty and challenged to fully handle facial highlights, since this was not a completely controlled test with framing and camera position changing (which could influence how light was hitting the subject relative to lens placement), I didn't allow that to color my overall impression too much. 

On the other side of the spectrum, my least favorites are B and G (with flesh tones looking a bit sallow to me, yellow and green respectively), and the model's skin on H skews magenta with a very flat overall image quality.

Ok, I've probably made an ass out of myself in terms of fragging a nice camera and championing one that may be widely considered as an inferior model, but after all, that's what blind tests are about. Honesty, fun... and sometimes, even surprises. Just my .02.

Again, thanks for setting all this up. I know how much time and effort folks like you and Goeff put into these tests that greatly benefit our whole community. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

A new poll has been created:

Okay, so... Fairly evidently I messed up when rushing this out the door. I've now taken a bit more time, keyed out the green (more or less)... fixed a couple more issues with white balance and replaced the shot that was overly soft.

 

The Cameras are all in the same order. So if people want to vote on the new version, lovely, very much appreciated. If they still stand by their previous decision then also great. 

 

Sorry about the slapdash version before. 

 

As before, 8 cameras under £10K (plus the Amira for control): Amira, FS7, C200, EVA1, GH5s, Ursa Mini Pro, Red Raven, Kinefinity Terra 4K.

https://vimeo.com/335478017

 

Thanks

 

Colin Elves

DP, Berlin

1. Camera A
2. Camera B
3. Camera C
4. Camera D
5. Camera E
6. Camera F
7. Camera G
8. Camera H

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A new poll has been created:

In February 2018 I organised a mini shootout of budget cameras (under €10k) in Berlin. I never released them as I messed up one of the cameras, didn’t have time to finalise etc etc. Anyway, I ended up getting into a discussion online about the colour science of one of them (some people felt the skin tones were too yellow) so I put together a quick comparison between the skin tones on all of them. 

 

I wasn’t intending to post it here, as I’m not sure it’s entirely worthy given the conditions and this being CML you have (rightly so) high standards, but the initial results on Facebook were interesting so I wanted to get the opinion of you honourable ladies and gentlemen. 

 

It’s 8 cameras: 

 

The Arri Amira,

Red Raven

Ursa Mini Pro (G1)

Sony FS7

Panasonic EVA1

Panasonic GH5s

Kinefinity Terra 4K

Canon C200

 

Details of the post processing and camera setup are on the vimeo link (same lens for all, same lighting and framing, Raw cameras were shooting Raw, Log cameras log, all processed in Resolve using ACES and appropriate IDT, Rec709 ODT) M18 through F1 as key, poly bounce as fill.

 

https://vimeo.com/335478017

 

I’d love to get people’s opinions on what they consider to be the nicest skin tones! 

 

Thank you!

 

 

Colin Elves

Director of Photography

Berlin

1. A
2. B
3. C
4. D
5. E
6. F
7. G
8. H

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I am curious as to how the AMIRA made it into this comparison of under 10K Euro comparison?  Has the AMIRA price dropped in Berlin that much?

Dave Huntley
DP Philadelphia