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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
It is worth remembering:
1. we try not to be openly insulting on CML… it does not foster an environment of participation
This is not quite the same as some other groups some of us participate in.
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It is worth remembering:
1. we try not to be openly insulting on CML… it does not foster an environment of participation
This is not quite the same as some other groups some of us participate in.
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Mark Weingartner, ASC
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#1774
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
Well said.
The purist in me says raw all the time, and the more evolved realist knows when to pull those punches, without sacrificing one ounce of artistic integrity.
Clark Graff
VFX Supervisor,
Well said.
The purist in me says raw all the time, and the more evolved realist knows when to pull those punches, without sacrificing one ounce of artistic integrity.
Clark Graff
VFX Supervisor,
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Clark Graff
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#1773
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
I think you are missing their message, or not able to see and think beyond yours.
As a youngish fart who is concerned with the entire dynamics of production and post, I think it makes sense to know
I think you are missing their message, or not able to see and think beyond yours.
As a youngish fart who is concerned with the entire dynamics of production and post, I think it makes sense to know
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Theo Stanley
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Re: Data offload costs (was Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp)
I just had a discussion last night with a producer after spending a few hours baby sitting nearly a full TB download with more on the way. Would have been so much more efficient and less expensive to
I just had a discussion last night with a producer after spending a few hours baby sitting nearly a full TB download with more on the way. Would have been so much more efficient and less expensive to
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Guy Mastrion
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#1771
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Re: Sigma fp
I agree. I just bought a BMD both for record and monitor. But I also got a few T5's for uncompressed
green things.
Nice that the camera can do both.
I agree. I just bought a BMD both for record and monitor. But I also got a few T5's for uncompressed
green things.
Nice that the camera can do both.
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Noel Sterrett
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#1770
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Re: Sigma fp
I will add that I am certainly not anti-RAW. There are certainly times where it is the right tool for the job. But I think that most of the time I would prefer to connect the Sigma FP to a small 5”
I will add that I am certainly not anti-RAW. There are certainly times where it is the right tool for the job. But I think that most of the time I would prefer to connect the Sigma FP to a small 5”
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Mitch Gross
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Re: Sigma fp
I agree. The quality of the 6K to 4K downres is limited by the processor power, and represents a
form of compression. Better to just push 6K out to an SSD.
One could argue it is actually an APS-C
I agree. The quality of the 6K to 4K downres is limited by the processor power, and represents a
form of compression. Better to just push 6K out to an SSD.
One could argue it is actually an APS-C
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Noel Sterrett
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#1768
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Exactly.
It will always be the case that processing is faster/better/cheaper off camera than on. If you want
to record standard compression schemes in real time, just add an Atomos or BMD recorder.
Exactly.
It will always be the case that processing is faster/better/cheaper off camera than on. If you want
to record standard compression schemes in real time, just add an Atomos or BMD recorder.
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Noel Sterrett
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
One refreshing thing about CML for me is, that a large part of the group that participates in the discussions do have deep backgrounds in their field and speak from actual experiences on top tier
One refreshing thing about CML for me is, that a large part of the group that participates in the discussions do have deep backgrounds in their field and speak from actual experiences on top tier
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Jan Klier
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Re: Sigma fp
There's been some tests with Sigma fp. Almost a year ago Evin Grant did the 2020 large format camera shootout (blind) where he put Sigma fp among all the heavy hitters like Alexa LF, Red Monstro and
There's been some tests with Sigma fp. Almost a year ago Evin Grant did the 2020 large format camera shootout (blind) where he put Sigma fp among all the heavy hitters like Alexa LF, Red Monstro and
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Pekka Riikonen
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Re: Data offload costs (was Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp)
Michael I 100% agree on the joy of Samsung T5 or similar SSDs (more drop-proof than drives too!) and how they pay for themselves and delight people.
I use multiple 860 EVOs which are decent,
Michael I 100% agree on the joy of Samsung T5 or similar SSDs (more drop-proof than drives too!) and how they pay for themselves and delight people.
I use multiple 860 EVOs which are decent,
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Bruce Allen
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Re: Sigma fp
This thread has derailed totally so it's nice to see a fp comment!
I would like the next fp to dump out the whole 6K sensor or offer other crops of it.
Whilst i understand the fierce my pixel is
This thread has derailed totally so it's nice to see a fp comment!
I would like the next fp to dump out the whole 6K sensor or offer other crops of it.
Whilst i understand the fierce my pixel is
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Paul Curtis
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Data offload costs (was Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp)
Interestingly by default if I’m supplying drives I’ll now just supply SSDs (either T5 or Sandisk). When clients baulk at the cost I just send them the difference in time to offload a card to SSD
Interestingly by default if I’m supplying drives I’ll now just supply SSDs (either T5 or Sandisk). When clients baulk at the cost I just send them the difference in time to offload a card to SSD
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Michael Sanders
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RE the Sigma fp... I hope they do a mk.2 with less rolling shutter (using an updated Sony sensor) and full sensor readout mode (the whole 3:2 area, pixel for pixel, not a weird 6K to 4K “Raw”
RE the Sigma fp... I hope they do a mk.2 with less rolling shutter (using an updated Sony sensor) and full sensor readout mode (the whole 3:2 area, pixel for pixel, not a weird 6K to 4K “Raw”
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Bruce Allen
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
“I swear these threads always derail into a bunch of old farts yelling at each other to slow down”
Oh dear, once again, these old farts have been pushing the technology to its limits for far
“I swear these threads always derail into a bunch of old farts yelling at each other to slow down”
Oh dear, once again, these old farts have been pushing the technology to its limits for far
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Geoff Boyle
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
lol
I swear these threads always derail into a bunch of old farts yelling at each other to slow down. Like, “Don’t push the Camery past 65 or Momma gonna find out!” It seems y’all know best:
lol
I swear these threads always derail into a bunch of old farts yelling at each other to slow down. Like, “Don’t push the Camery past 65 or Momma gonna find out!” It seems y’all know best:
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Adrian Jebef
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
Pawel,
While I do agree with most of what you’re saying from a technical standpoint, I think you’re missing the point that Mitch and Geoff are making.
Firstly, while uncompressed RAW is
Pawel,
While I do agree with most of what you’re saying from a technical standpoint, I think you’re missing the point that Mitch and Geoff are making.
Firstly, while uncompressed RAW is
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Maxwell Geoffrey
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
“ask your DIT to run the Post numbers if you’re concerned about Budget and camera format. Usually they’re the smartest tool in the shed. “
Not my personal experience.
I’ll stick
“ask your DIT to run the Post numbers if you’re concerned about Budget and camera format. Usually they’re the smartest tool in the shed. “
Not my personal experience.
I’ll stick
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Geoff Boyle
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
I’m sure you were trying to be colloquial and casually humorous in your post, but with all due respect I have to say that if a DIT said that to a DP on most sets I’ve been around than that person
I’m sure you were trying to be colloquial and casually humorous in your post, but with all due respect I have to say that if a DIT said that to a DP on most sets I’ve been around than that person
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Mitch Gross
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Re: Curves and Bit Depth - was Sigma fp
Perhaps you should once again reread what I wrote. I did not reference Log RAW v Linear RAW (although I do not fully agree with your point anyway, but I digress).
I state once again that 99% of
Perhaps you should once again reread what I wrote. I did not reference Log RAW v Linear RAW (although I do not fully agree with your point anyway, but I digress).
I state once again that 99% of
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Mitch Gross
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#1755
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