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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Yes, if there's actual IR present. Even when subtle (and depending on the camera/lens/sensor), the changed blacks are the first thing I notice when IR is present, as they usually tend to go a
Yes, if there's actual IR present. Even when subtle (and depending on the camera/lens/sensor), the changed blacks are the first thing I notice when IR is present, as they usually tend to go a
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Bob Kertesz
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#1855
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
We noticed lines on our test recordings too and this is why we rejected the Wave camera.
Barry Bassett
London rental company, VMI
We noticed lines on our test recordings too and this is why we rejected the Wave camera.
Barry Bassett
London rental company, VMI
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Barry Bassett
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#1854
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Hi,
thank you everyone for your answers, the “fixed pattern noise” seems to be the best description of the issue, I am going to contact Wave Freefly direct and see if they can tell me anymore, or
Hi,
thank you everyone for your answers, the “fixed pattern noise” seems to be the best description of the issue, I am going to contact Wave Freefly direct and see if they can tell me anymore, or
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Andrew Boulter
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#1853
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
To be honest, I'd guess that you might be dealing with nothing more complicated than under-exposure here. It's a common thing in slow motion footage from people who haven't tried it, because it's easy
To be honest, I'd guess that you might be dealing with nothing more complicated than under-exposure here. It's a common thing in slow motion footage from people who haven't tried it, because it's easy
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Rakesh Malik
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#1852
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Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Hi Cynthia-
If there’s enough IR pollution then yes, the blacks would be contaminated along with everything else. At lower levels only fabrics and certain materials will noticeably change
Hi Cynthia-
If there’s enough IR pollution then yes, the blacks would be contaminated along with everything else. At lower levels only fabrics and certain materials will noticeably change
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Art Adams
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Hey Andrew,
The sample images you posted look like fixed pattern noise to me, BMD had similar issues with their 1st 4k camera when I recieved it. Black shading is of course easier for everyone
Hey Andrew,
The sample images you posted look like fixed pattern noise to me, BMD had similar issues with their 1st 4k camera when I recieved it. Black shading is of course easier for everyone
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Andrew Hunter
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#1850
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Would shooting through IRND Filters help to even out the blacks reaching the sensor?
Cynthia Webster DP
Los Angeles
818-524-9773
cynthiacinema@...
Would shooting through IRND Filters help to even out the blacks reaching the sensor?
Cynthia Webster DP
Los Angeles
818-524-9773
cynthiacinema@...
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Cynthia Brett Webster
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Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Andrew, I can’t answer that as I don’t know that camera well enough, or at all really. I do know that black shading will often solve that issue in other cameras. Sorry!
-Art
Andrew, I can’t answer that as I don’t know that camera well enough, or at all really. I do know that black shading will often solve that issue in other cameras. Sorry!
-Art
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Art Adams
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Thankyou Art,
So my next question is would black shading solve the problem I am seeing, and is that something a firmware update can cure, or not…….?
Andrew
Andrew Boulter
Director of
Thankyou Art,
So my next question is would black shading solve the problem I am seeing, and is that something a firmware update can cure, or not…….?
Andrew
Andrew Boulter
Director of
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Andrew Boulter
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#1847
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Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Hi Andrew-
You’re thinking about black shading, not black balance. Black balance will just make sure black is black. Black shading is about eliminating noise and fixed patterns.
-Art
Hi Andrew-
You’re thinking about black shading, not black balance. Black balance will just make sure black is black. Black shading is about eliminating noise and fixed patterns.
-Art
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Art Adams
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
I’d expect nothing less from CML.
Colin Elves
Director of Photography
Brussels
I’d expect nothing less from CML.
Colin Elves
Director of Photography
Brussels
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Colin Elves
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Yes, sorry about the examples, they are not great, here’s one more, I have increased the brightness and raised the shadow areas just to so you can see the pattern. I hasten to add this is only to
Yes, sorry about the examples, they are not great, here’s one more, I have increased the brightness and raised the shadow areas just to so you can see the pattern. I hasten to add this is only to
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Andrew Boulter
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Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Just to be pedantically pedantic, it’s black shading that addresses fixed pattern noise. My understand is that you’re creating an offset map that addresses unevenness in noise across the sensor,
Just to be pedantically pedantic, it’s black shading that addresses fixed pattern noise. My understand is that you’re creating an offset map that addresses unevenness in noise across the sensor,
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Art Adams
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
I agree 100% with Alister: the frames are too small to judge (😃) but my initial assumption would be that it’s fixed pattern noise. Most cameras address this with a black balance. If that’s not
I agree 100% with Alister: the frames are too small to judge (😃) but my initial assumption would be that it’s fixed pattern noise. Most cameras address this with a black balance. If that’s not
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Colin Elves
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
I believe Freefly just released a firmware update that expanded dynamic range along with other improvements. There’s also a new player for use on Macs.
I believe Freefly just released a firmware update that expanded dynamic range along with other improvements. There’s also a new player for use on Macs.
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Mitch Gross
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Thanks Alister, seems I forgot to mention one important thing, it was lit with sunlight alone, so its not that.
Andrew
Andrew Boulter
Director of Photography
www.andrewboulter.com
UK based but thanks
Thanks Alister, seems I forgot to mention one important thing, it was lit with sunlight alone, so its not that.
Andrew
Andrew Boulter
Director of Photography
www.andrewboulter.com
UK based but thanks
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Andrew Boulter
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#1840
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
I bought one of these for our rental division and the engineering guys felt that the quality of this camera had some real issues which made its purchase unwise.
Barry Bassett
Rental company, VMI,
I bought one of these for our rental division and the engineering guys felt that the quality of this camera had some real issues which made its purchase unwise.
Barry Bassett
Rental company, VMI,
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Barry Bassett
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
Sorry all. After writing my reply re lights I realised that what I was looking at was two images one above the other, not a single image. Doh.
So ignore my comments about lights. I’m not sure the
Sorry all. After writing my reply re lights I realised that what I was looking at was two images one above the other, not a single image. Doh.
So ignore my comments about lights. I’m not sure the
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alister@...
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Re: Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
To me this looks like a problem with lights where the cmos sensor is operating faster than the lights are cycling. Try again with daylight or other lights with high speed ballast suitable for high
To me this looks like a problem with lights where the cmos sensor is operating faster than the lights are cycling. Try again with daylight or other lights with high speed ballast suitable for high
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alister@...
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Wave-Freefly Hi Speed Camera
I tested one of the Wave-Freefly cameras today here in Dubai and came across some issues, and was hoping that those with more knowledge than me, I come from the old world, so my sensor knowledge has
I tested one of the Wave-Freefly cameras today here in Dubai and came across some issues, and was hoping that those with more knowledge than me, I come from the old world, so my sensor knowledge has
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Andrew Boulter
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