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Day 2 camera evaluations

Geoff Boyle
 

I'm not going to respond to any more messages about the tests, it's too distracting.

 

Most of you seem to miss the vital point that in a real-world situation I often have to rely on my meters, it's just not practical to use a waveform.

 

Yeah of course, I'll work out offsets for all the various LED lights, yeah right.

 

I'll trust the manufacturers to tell me because let's face it, they have to know.

 

Hmm, I can really see that happening.

 

Anyway, all kinds of other things turning up, weird sensor sizes, strange recording systems, really simple things made incredibly difficult.

 

Amazing skin tone test results. Way bigger differences than any of us expected.

 

It'll be a good while before I publish anything from these evaluations, I'm going to have to sit back and slowly absorb it. My head is spinning.

 

I was meant to call LA tonight to get something working but I'll leave it until tomorrow.

 

Little stupid niggles at times.

 

Aaaagh!

 

Cheers

Geoff Boyle NSC FBKS
Cinematographer
EU Based
geoff@...
Skype  geoff.boyle
mobile: +31 (0) 637 155 076
www.gboyle.nl

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Mark Weingartner, ASC
 

I will hazard a guess that you will see more skin-tone variations between cameras under the daylight LED than under the actual tungsten tungsten… and that will be a good thing for us to see as a reminder that LED sources are not black body radiators - same as in our older fluorescent days)

But, I am sure we will see different skintone rendition camera-to-camera even with the tungsten even after taking everything into ACES because the sensors are different.

weingartner
(wish I could have joined you for this )

Refah Seyed Mahmoud
 

Geoff, with all humility, it sounds like you could use a DIT.

Refah Mahmoud
IA669 Digital Loader/Phantom tech
Vancouver, BC


On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 10:38 Geoff Boyle <geoff@...> wrote:

I'm not going to respond to any more messages about the tests, it's too distracting.

 

Most of you seem to miss the vital point that in a real-world situation I often have to rely on my meters, it's just not practical to use a waveform.

 

Yeah of course, I'll work out offsets for all the various LED lights, yeah right.

 

I'll trust the manufacturers to tell me because let's face it, they have to know.

 

Hmm, I can really see that happening.

 

Anyway, all kinds of other things turning up, weird sensor sizes, strange recording systems, really simple things made incredibly difficult.

 

Amazing skin tone test results. Way bigger differences than any of us expected.

 

It'll be a good while before I publish anything from these evaluations, I'm going to have to sit back and slowly absorb it. My head is spinning.

 

I was meant to call LA tonight to get something working but I'll leave it until tomorrow.

 

Little stupid niggles at times.

 

Aaaagh!

 

Cheers

Geoff Boyle NSC FBKS
Cinematographer
EU Based
geoff@...
Skype  geoff.boyle
mobile: +31 (0) 637 155 076
www.gboyle.nl

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Geoff Boyle
 

WTF do I need a DIT for?

 

All cameras are being set to 3200, 180 degrees, 25fps, raw, whatever else they need.

 

I have an AC and a gaffer.

 

I have shotput pro and multiple SSD's

 

So WTF do I need a DIT for?

 

As for using a stills camera instead of a meter, fuck me! Have you ever lit anything? Set a light, take a still, not right, adjust the light, not right, adjust it, take a still, not right, adjust it, take yet another still or:-

 

Just use a fucking meter and read the values as the light is adjusted in real fucking time!

 

There do seem to be some fucking idiots on this list.

 

Ah, that feels better

 

Cheers

Geoff Boyle NSC FBKS
Cinematographer
EU Based
geoff@...
Skype  geoff.boyle
mobile: +31 (0) 637 155 076
www.gboyle.nl

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From: <cml-raw-log-hdr@...> on behalf of Refah Seyed Mahmoud <refahsm@...>
Reply-To: <cml-raw-log-hdr@...>
Date: Tuesday, 10 July 2018 at 19:56
To: <cml-raw-log-hdr@...>
Subject: Re: [cml-raw-log-hdr] Day 2 camera evaluations

 

Geoff, with all humility, it sounds like you could use a DIT.

 

Refah Mahmoud

IA669 Digital Loader/Phantom tech

Vancouver, BC

 

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 10:38 Geoff Boyle <geoff@...> wrote:

I'm not going to respond to any more messages about the tests, it's too distracting.

 

Most of you seem to miss the vital point that in a real-world situation I often have to rely on my meters, it's just not practical to use a waveform.

 

Yeah of course, I'll work out offsets for all the various LED lights, yeah right.

 

I'll trust the manufacturers to tell me because let's face it, they have to know.

 

Hmm, I can really see that happening.

 

Anyway, all kinds of other things turning up, weird sensor sizes, strange recording systems, really simple things made incredibly difficult.

 

Amazing skin tone test results. Way bigger differences than any of us expected.

 

It'll be a good while before I publish anything from these evaluations, I'm going to have to sit back and slowly absorb it. My head is spinning.

 

I was meant to call LA tonight to get something working but I'll leave it until tomorrow.

 

Little stupid niggles at times.

 

Aaaagh!

 

Cheers

Geoff Boyle NSC FBKS
Cinematographer
EU Based
geoff@...
Skype  geoff.boyle
mobile: +31 (0) 637 155 076
www.gboyle.nl

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