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Ted Langdell
 

On Apr 28, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Noel Sterrett <noel@...> wrote:

Summarily erasing the knowledge base...

Not necessarily.

For what it's worth, the Internet Archive has archived contents through--it seems-- March of this year:


Unfortunately it's not sortable by date, but it might be possible to contact the Internet Archive, acquire a copy of the contents and create a forum – based system utilizing the contents as a starting point. 

I have no idea how to do that, but thought folks might like to know that at least the content is still around.

I hope this is helpful in some way. 

Ted

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Ted Langdell
 

A little clicking around reveals that by selecting the "large sensor" link instead of just the F5/F 55 for them, one sees a list of the most recent posts, at least as captured on February 2, 2018. 

It seems to be the last snap shot taken by the Interment Archive: 

https://web.archive.org/web/20180210095221/http://community.sony.com/t5/Large-Sensor-Cameras/ct-p/large-sensor-cameras

Ted

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On Apr 28, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Ted Langdell <tedlangdell@...> wrote:

On Apr 28, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Noel Sterrett <noel@...> wrote:

Summarily erasing the knowledge base...

Not necessarily.

For what it's worth, the Internet Archive has archived contents through--it seems-- March of this year:


Unfortunately it's not sortable by date, but it might be possible to contact the Internet Archive, acquire a copy of the contents and create a forum – based system utilizing the contents as a starting point. 

I have no idea how to do that, but thought folks might like to know that at least the content is still around.

I hope this is helpful in some way. 

Ted

Ted Langdell
(530)301-2931

Dictated into and Sent from my iPhone, which is solely responsible for any weird stuff I didn't catch.


alister@...
 

From what I understand the entire server platform for the Sony forums is being changed and I don’t think the process is finished yet. I’m hopeful that what we are seeing at the moment is a temporary solution and not the end result of the move. Fingers crossed.

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Leonard Levy
 

I also hope that the Sony Forum is revived and the recent introduction of the ProRes raw  option is perfect example of why. I haven’t been able to find a clear explanation  or discussion of how this will effect recording on the FS7 and the Sony Forum would have been  the perfect place for this.
I don’t know if its a related issue or not, but I also don’t know how to address anyone at Sony directly about these or any questions. I used to be able to contact Juan Martinez or Mel Medina who both stayed very close to user concerns. Does anyone know who has taken over the role of US Senior managers for the  F55 /F5 / FS7 /Venice cameras?

In the meantime, the forum that comes closest to Sony’s remains DVXUser’s for PMW cameras including F55/F5/FS7 and people have been posting about Venice also. The addition of CML voices would be very valuable.

Noel Sterrett
 

I'm truly impressed that you found this. But it is of little use, since the bulk of the issues, especially those "SOLVED", were posted much earlier than March of this year.

I say again that Sony's action is absolutely outrageous. The existence of the forum was a major consideration in our decision to purchase and use Sony cameras. Sony has all of the email addresses for the forum members, but failed even to notify members of the change.

Discontinuing the forum for future posts is one thing. Hiding the knowledge base from those who contributed to it is unethical and potentially actionable.

To Geoff: Thank you for the way you have set up CML. I have all the emails from the forums on my computers and have no need to worry that they will disappear in the night from the "cloud".

Long live CML.

Cheers.

On 04/28/2018 11:44 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:
For what it's worth, the Internet Archive has archived contents through--it seems-- March of this year:


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Mark Sasahara
 


> From what I understand the entire server platform for the Sony forums is being changed and I don’t think the process is finished yet. I’m hopeful that what we are seeing at the moment is a temporary solution and not the end result of the move. Fingers crossed.
>
> Alister Chapman
 

Alister,

Does it make sense to politely ask Peter Crithary to look into, or fix the problem? Could you, as an important Sony user and educator, remind them of the importance of a global user forum for their professional products?

The Sony forums were a gold mine of information for the whole world to share their knowledge of Sony products, as well as free feedback and R&D for Sony. Like CML, top professionals in the industry and Sony's own educators frequented the F5/F55 forum, helping users. Forum members helped each other, sharing news and information, building a strong community.

I know I have benefited from the F5/F55 forum, as I benefit from CML. To jettison a resource like that is foolish, since it is a direct link into their customer's minds. What their customers want, don't want and how to improve their products. It seems to show a certain lack of sensitivity towards us users, whom they claim to listen to. I hope that this a temporary oversight.

Thankfully, we still have CML, your website and other sites, but a direct line to the manufacturer is invaluable for both Sony and user alike.

Mark Sasahara, DP, NYC
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alister@...
 

I know that people within Sony such as Peter Crithary and his European counterparts are aware of the situation and I believe somewhat frustrated by what is going on. It is my understanding that within Sony, staff are not normally permitted to post on social media or forums. It took a lot of effort by Peter C and a handful of others to get permission to operate the forum. It was run by a couple of people in what was essentially their own time. It had to piggy back on the existing consumer forum platform rather than getting it’s own dedicated server and management. This consumer forum platform is being adjusted and re-written and this is out of Peter C etc’s control.  I had several conversations with various people at NAB and I know they are very aware of the changes that are occurring and I think they are probably just as frustrated as the rest of us that at the moment it is a big mess. This is my understanding of the current situation.

I know many of the more pro-active Sony people read CML and threads like this rarely go completely un-noticed. 

Alister Chapman

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Mark Sasahara
 

...It had to piggy back on the existing consumer forum platform rather than getting it’s own dedicated server and management. This consumer forum platform is being adjusted and re-written and this is out of Peter C etc’s control...

I know many of the more pro-active Sony people read CML and threads like this rarely go completely un-noticed.

Alister Chapman


Thank you, Alister! Sounds like there's a lot of corporate moving parts that they have no control over. I guess we'll wait and see what happens. Or, find out who in corporate we need to convince. Politely. There's a bunch of us in NYC who could visit Sony HQ and inform them of the forum's importance. Though, one would think they would be able to see the sales and marketing advantage, themselves.

Best,

-Mark "Probably a Sony fanboy, but in denial about it" Sasahara, DP, NYC

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