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Sony Fs7 Raw to Black & White

Alexander Wysocki
 

I have a project coming up and we are planning on finishing it in Black and White.  I will most likely have to use the Sony FS7 for this with an Odyssey Raw recorder. 

The setting of the film is the 1940s so we are aiming for a Black and White look that will evoke that era.  I will be using a set of Zeiss Super Speed PL primes.

Could anyone suggest a LUT that would serve as a good starting point?  Every time I see a digital conversion to B&W I am bothered by the black level never getting completely dark.  I know there are a ton of LUT websites out there, but before I go downloading a whole bunch of them, I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice (or warnings) from this group.

thanks,

Alex Wysocki 
Director Of Photography / Camera Operator
Burbank, CA
www.ShadowRender.com


Colin Elves
 

I would recommend baking your own in Resolve. Get a digital version of an old film you’re trying to match and some camera tests, then add the film into Resolve and A/B the camera test footage until you get a look you like.

The RGB Mixer panel is a good place to work on a B&W look as you can adjust how much each RGB channel contributes to the luma.

There’s a few tutorials online about using thE RGB Mixer for B&W.

Once you’re happy, export the grade as a LUT.

Colin Elves
Director of Photography
Currently Kent




On 8 Jul 2018, at 07:58, alexander.wysocki@... wrote:

I have a project coming up and we are planning on finishing it in Black and White. I will most likely have to use the Sony FS7 for this with an Odyssey Raw recorder.

The setting of the film is the 1940s so we are aiming for a Black and White look that will evoke that era. I will be using a set of Zeiss Super Speed PL primes.

Could anyone suggest a LUT that would serve as a good starting point? Every time I see a digital conversion to B&W I am bothered by the black level never getting completely dark. I know there are a ton of LUT websites out there, but before I go downloading a whole bunch of them, I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice (or warnings) from this group.

thanks,

Alex Wysocki
Director Of Photography / Camera Operator
Burbank, CA
www.ShadowRender.com

Argyris_Theos_cml
 

May I suggest using B/W camera filters during shooting? 
A friend has done it on a feature with great results 
Best 

Argyris Theos, gsc 
DoP, Athens Greece,
+306944725315
Skype Argyris.Theos
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8 Ιουλ 2018, 11:52 π.μ., ο/η "Colin Elves" <colin@...> έγραψε:

I would recommend baking your own in Resolve. Get a digital version of an old film you’re trying to match and some camera tests, then add the film into Resolve and A/B the camera test footage until you get a look you like.

The RGB Mixer panel is a good place to work on a B&W look as you can adjust how much each RGB channel contributes to the luma.

There’s a few tutorials online about using thE RGB Mixer for B&W.

Once you’re happy, export the grade as a LUT.

Colin Elves
Director of Photography
Currently Kent




On 8 Jul 2018, at 07:58, alexander.wysocki@... wrote:

I have a project coming up and we are planning on finishing it in Black and White. I will most likely have to use the Sony FS7 for this with an Odyssey Raw recorder.

The setting of the film is the 1940s so we are aiming for a Black and White look that will evoke that era. I will be using a set of Zeiss Super Speed PL primes.

Could anyone suggest a LUT that would serve as a good starting point? Every time I see a digital conversion to B&W I am bothered by the black level never getting completely dark. I know there are a ton of LUT websites out there, but before I go downloading a whole bunch of them, I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice (or warnings) from this group.

thanks,

Alex Wysocki
Director Of Photography / Camera Operator
Burbank, CA
www.ShadowRender.com

Andrew McKee
 

My advice would be to start building a relationship with a colourist by shooting some test footage, taking it to them and developing a LUT together. It really will serve you better than any LUT you can buy online. 

Andrew McKee
Film Editor & Colourist


On 8 Jul 2018, at 07:58, alexander.wysocki@... wrote:

I have a project coming up and we are planning on finishing it in Black and White.  I will most likely have to use the Sony FS7 for this with an Odyssey Raw recorder. 

The setting of the film is the 1940s so we are aiming for a Black and White look that will evoke that era.  I will be using a set of Zeiss Super Speed PL primes.

Could anyone suggest a LUT that would serve as a good starting point?  Every time I see a digital conversion to B&W I am bothered by the black level never getting completely dark.  I know there are a ton of LUT websites out there, but before I go downloading a whole bunch of them, I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice (or warnings) from this group.

thanks,

Alex Wysocki 
Director Of Photography / Camera Operator
Burbank, CA
www.ShadowRender.com


Jan Klier
 

A custom LUT is definitely the way to go given your camera configuration. With the FS7 and 7Q+ you will be shooting in slog3 and will need a correction LUT for that as well. But since you can only load one LUT into the 7Q+ it needs to combine the slog3 correction and your B&W transform in one.

As suggested work with the post folks to create and test it.

Jan Klier
DP NYC

will most likely have to use the Sony FS7 for this with an Odyssey Raw recorder.